Honda city steermatic on CNG?????
Honda city steermatic on CNG?????
aoa,
I recently bought a city steermatic. If anyone has installed CNG in their steermatic, please provide comments on the performance/milage and also if anyone knows a good dealer for electronic CNG kits in Islamabad. There are lots of shops but most of them simply don't know what they are doing .
Though my car is in running, let me know about its accelaration when you put the pedal to the metal!!!
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I recently bought a city steermatic. If anyone has installed CNG in their steermatic, please provide comments on the performance/milage and also if anyone knows a good dealer for electronic CNG kits in Islamabad. There are lots of shops but most of them simply don't know what they are doing .
Though my car is in running, let me know about its accelaration when you put the pedal to the metal!!!
Gari.pk User 6786 asked on 13 Aug 2010 11:27:42 am


Please read the following for difference.
EFI & CNG Technology
On EFI-vehicle, there are 2 main technologies that are being applied, that is (1) EFI Fumigation and (2) Sequential Gas Injection. Here is the breakdown on the comparative technologies:
EFI & Fumigation
On the EFI-vehicle, you may see a Mixer attached between the airfilter hose and the Throttle Body Opening. This vehicle is using a Fumigation Technology, which is actually a GAS carburetion. Electronics like Injector Emulator and Lambda Emulator are meant to fool or deceive the EFI-ECU, sending you NO warning light or 'Check Engine' Alert on your speedometer.
In Petrol-mode, your vehicle is operating on FULL Petrol Injection (intelligent Fuel Management with metered petrol-liquid injection, directly into the combustion chamber). But when you operate in CNG-mode, you have downgraded your Fuel system to a Gas Carburetor.
The Fumigation CNG mixer acts as your traditional Carburetor Unit, pre-mixing your air with CNG before the Throtte Body. The Injector Emulator prevents the Petrol injector to open, by introducing current resistance or Ohm. The lambda (oxygen) sensor is fooled by the Lambda Emulator to provide the 'correct' stoichemetric reading - although it is now incorrect at CNG-mode.
With EFI-Mixer-Fumigation technology, you have a Carburetor-Engine on CNG-mode, and an EFI-Engine Management System for petrol-mode. In conclusion, EFI-mixer conversion is in fact a CARBURETOR on CNG.
Incidentally, the Throttle Body's buttervalve has become the Buttervalve for your newly-introduced 'CNG Mixer Carburetor Unit'. The entire Throttle Body is converted into a Big & Long Intake Manifold. This technology can lead to backfires.
Thus, EFI-CNG Fumigation technology is actually Gas carburetor system. On CNG mode, your vehicle is No longer intelligent.
EFI & Sequential Gas Injection
To prevent Gas Carburetor-mode, your vehicle can be installed with Sequential Gas Injection. Holes will be drilled nearest to your engine Intake Valve at an angle, and injector giggler (tips) will be inserted. The gigglers are used to spray CNG directly into your combustion chambers.
In fact, the CNG Sequential Gas Injector operates like your Petrol Injectors, but it sprays purely CNG. Each injector spray a metered volume of CNG on what we can as 'pulse width' or duration of the injector remains open to spray in gas. The longer it remans open, more CNG will be injected in at 40psi or 3 bar.
Programming the CNG Injector pulse width is very important, and you need to understand Fuel Mapping vs Ignition Mapping. This EFI-Sequential Gas Injection is like Petrol Injection Technology.
EFI & CNG Technology
On EFI-vehicle, there are 2 main technologies that are being applied, that is (1) EFI Fumigation and (2) Sequential Gas Injection. Here is the breakdown on the comparative technologies:
EFI & Fumigation
On the EFI-vehicle, you may see a Mixer attached between the airfilter hose and the Throttle Body Opening. This vehicle is using a Fumigation Technology, which is actually a GAS carburetion. Electronics like Injector Emulator and Lambda Emulator are meant to fool or deceive the EFI-ECU, sending you NO warning light or 'Check Engine' Alert on your speedometer.
In Petrol-mode, your vehicle is operating on FULL Petrol Injection (intelligent Fuel Management with metered petrol-liquid injection, directly into the combustion chamber). But when you operate in CNG-mode, you have downgraded your Fuel system to a Gas Carburetor.
The Fumigation CNG mixer acts as your traditional Carburetor Unit, pre-mixing your air with CNG before the Throtte Body. The Injector Emulator prevents the Petrol injector to open, by introducing current resistance or Ohm. The lambda (oxygen) sensor is fooled by the Lambda Emulator to provide the 'correct' stoichemetric reading - although it is now incorrect at CNG-mode.
With EFI-Mixer-Fumigation technology, you have a Carburetor-Engine on CNG-mode, and an EFI-Engine Management System for petrol-mode. In conclusion, EFI-mixer conversion is in fact a CARBURETOR on CNG.
Incidentally, the Throttle Body's buttervalve has become the Buttervalve for your newly-introduced 'CNG Mixer Carburetor Unit'. The entire Throttle Body is converted into a Big & Long Intake Manifold. This technology can lead to backfires.
Thus, EFI-CNG Fumigation technology is actually Gas carburetor system. On CNG mode, your vehicle is No longer intelligent.
EFI & Sequential Gas Injection
To prevent Gas Carburetor-mode, your vehicle can be installed with Sequential Gas Injection. Holes will be drilled nearest to your engine Intake Valve at an angle, and injector giggler (tips) will be inserted. The gigglers are used to spray CNG directly into your combustion chambers.
In fact, the CNG Sequential Gas Injector operates like your Petrol Injectors, but it sprays purely CNG. Each injector spray a metered volume of CNG on what we can as 'pulse width' or duration of the injector remains open to spray in gas. The longer it remans open, more CNG will be injected in at 40psi or 3 bar.
Programming the CNG Injector pulse width is very important, and you need to understand Fuel Mapping vs Ignition Mapping. This EFI-Sequential Gas Injection is like Petrol Injection Technology.

EFI & Sequential Gas Injection
To prevent Gas Carburetor-mode, your vehicle can be installed with Sequential Gas Injection. Holes will be drilled nearest to your engine Intake Valve at an angle, and injector giggler (tips) will be inserted. The gigglers are used to spray CNG directly into your combustion chambers.
In fact, the CNG Sequential Gas Injector operates like your Petrol Injectors, but it sprays purely CNG. Each injector spray a metered volume of CNG on what we can as 'pulse width' or duration of the injector remains open to spray in gas. The longer it remans open, more CNG will be injected in at 40psi or 3 bar.
Programming the CNG Injector pulse width is very important, and you need to understand Fuel Mapping vs Ignition Mapping. This EFI-Sequential Gas Injection is like Petrol Injection Technology.
NOW YOU HAVE A SOLUTION TO INSTALL SEQUENTIAL SYSTEM IN CARS LIKE HONDA VARIO, CROLLA, VITZ/PLANTZ BELTA (2008 + MODELS )
THERE WILL BE NO BACKFIRES.
THERE WILL BE NO ENGINE DEPRECIATION
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON IN YOUR THROTTLE BODY
THERE WILL BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INJECTION SYSTEM BY DRILLING IN YOUR MANIFULE.
TOTALLY COMPUTERISED TUNING. WHICH IS GOING TO MATCH YOUR CAR HORSEPOWERS ON GAS SAME AS PETROL. LIKE IF YOU ARE HAVING A 1500CC CAR IT WILL BE HAVING A 1500 CC MAXIMUM CAPACITY OPERATION ON GAS AS WELL.
THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF YOU INSTALL ITALIAN MADE SEQUENTIAL KIT SYSTEM
WHICH IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN PAKISTAN AT OUR CNG CENTER
WE ARE BASED IN LAHORE
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE DONT HESITATE TO CALL
BADAR CNG
0321-4066227
To prevent Gas Carburetor-mode, your vehicle can be installed with Sequential Gas Injection. Holes will be drilled nearest to your engine Intake Valve at an angle, and injector giggler (tips) will be inserted. The gigglers are used to spray CNG directly into your combustion chambers.
In fact, the CNG Sequential Gas Injector operates like your Petrol Injectors, but it sprays purely CNG. Each injector spray a metered volume of CNG on what we can as 'pulse width' or duration of the injector remains open to spray in gas. The longer it remans open, more CNG will be injected in at 40psi or 3 bar.
Programming the CNG Injector pulse width is very important, and you need to understand Fuel Mapping vs Ignition Mapping. This EFI-Sequential Gas Injection is like Petrol Injection Technology.
NOW YOU HAVE A SOLUTION TO INSTALL SEQUENTIAL SYSTEM IN CARS LIKE HONDA VARIO, CROLLA, VITZ/PLANTZ BELTA (2008 + MODELS )
THERE WILL BE NO BACKFIRES.
THERE WILL BE NO ENGINE DEPRECIATION
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON IN YOUR THROTTLE BODY
THERE WILL BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INJECTION SYSTEM BY DRILLING IN YOUR MANIFULE.
TOTALLY COMPUTERISED TUNING. WHICH IS GOING TO MATCH YOUR CAR HORSEPOWERS ON GAS SAME AS PETROL. LIKE IF YOU ARE HAVING A 1500CC CAR IT WILL BE HAVING A 1500 CC MAXIMUM CAPACITY OPERATION ON GAS AS WELL.
THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF YOU INSTALL ITALIAN MADE SEQUENTIAL KIT SYSTEM
WHICH IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN PAKISTAN AT OUR CNG CENTER
WE ARE BASED IN LAHORE
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE DONT HESITATE TO CALL
BADAR CNG
0321-4066227